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Register Guard editors confused about UO’s inflection point and sports

9/23/2015: This latest RG editorial is a response to Jack Stripling’s story in the Chronicle of Higher Ed about UO, “An Academic Reputation at Risk“. That is still gated if you are off campus, but I put up a few extracts here.

The RG’s editors are confused about the meaning of “inflection point” (Hint: Check the 2nd derivative, not the first). More significantly they seem blissfully unaware of the years of research results, including two NCAA sponsored white papers, that cannot find evidence for the claim that athletic success is a cost-effective way for a university to increase enrollment. Here’s what the RG says:

The rise of athletics coincided with the decline in public financial support, and came just as the UO needed to market itself outside the state’s boundaries. In that respect it was a godsend, giving the UO a foot in the door with prospective students everywhere.

Aren’t journalists supposed to follow the money? This argument has made millions for the athletics directors, coaches, and the compliant presidents whose PR flacks keep repeating it.

The online comments are pretty good though, as is the basic story about how declines in state funding forced UO’s leaders to go after out-of-state undergraduates. That kept them and UO’s faculty employed, but led to a relative decline in research resources and focus, and our national reputation.

And if you ignore the math error and the cheap shot at the faculty who’ve stuck with Oregon’s flagship university through all this, it’s hard to argue with their conclusion, here:

The [Chronicle] article goes on to suggest that the UO has reached an inflection point: Either the trade-offs of quality vs. quantity will be locked in, or something will happen to initiate a virtuous cycle, with first-rate academic programs attracting first-rate faculty to create first-rate academic programs.

Launching such a cycle would depend on leadership and money. That’s why so much is riding on Michael Schill, who in July became the UO’s fifth president in six years, and on the university’s $2 billion fundraising campaign. Other factors will also be at play, but leadership and self-generated resources are the two that are most subject to the university’s control.

The “flawed reputation” in the Chronicle’s headline is disheartening but undeniable. The task now is to confront it boldly, and bend the UO’s trajectory in an upward direction.

9/13/2015: Register Guard editorial on UO President Mike Schill

“Schill’s academic focus: New UO president hopes to replicate athletic success in labs and classrooms” 

In the RG here:

… And he was candid in his own assessment: “The athletic enterprise is among the very best in the nation,” Schill said. “You can’t say that about the academics.”

Schill understands that the imbalance is a cause of frustration and resentment on campus, but he sees promise in it. Top-flight athletic programs prove that the UO can excel, given the resources. Academic programs can aspire to similar success if they can be provided with enough financial support. …

Then there’s this statement:

“A high-profile athletics program helps attract students who otherwise would never have heard of the UO, he added.”

Actually, it attracts and repels. The evidence on the net effect is mixed. Here’s one recent paper:

Abstract:  College football has become big business for universities with the increase in television contracts and exposure. Concurrently, as a recent Harris Interactive poll indicates, college football has the same level of popularity as Major League Baseball. With this increase in popularity, questions arise about the effects on applications, enrollment, and the quality of the students at a university. In this paper, we use a panel data set of university funding, applications, enrollment and the quality of students at the university measured by percentile on entrance exams from 2002 to 2009 to examine the effects of various levels of success including: BCS national championships, conference championships and AP top 25 rankings. Our results indicate, individually, that national championships and AP top 25 rankings can lower the quantity and quality of applicants and enrollees, however, conference championships can positively impact the quantity and quality of applicants and enrollees. Yet, when the success measures are combined, tests reveal that overall success negatively affects the quantity and quality of applicants and enrollees.

It shouldn’t surprise anyone to learn that parents of good students don’t necessarily want to pay to send them to a football-factory party school. This NYT story based on research by UO economists explains one obvious reason.

9/2/2015: Register Guard editors interview UO President Mike Schill

Presumably the editorial will come out in a few days. Their 2013 editorial on Mike Gottfredson and the UO board is here:

Gov. John Kitzhaber’s nominations to the University of Oregon’s governing board provide a glimpse of what institutional autonomy can mean. The board will have authority over such matters as issuing bonds and hiring a president — but its real value will lie in its ability to provide leadership and support. President Michael Gottfredson, who has kept a low profile since arriving at the UO a year ago, will soon be guided and empowered by the new board.

Collectively, the nominees are a dynamo. Among them are top-tier business people such as Peter Bragdon of Columbia Sportswear and Ross Kari, chief financial officer of Freddie Mac. Major donors to the UO were nominated, including Allyn Ford of Roseburg Forest Products and Chuck Lillis of Lone Tree Partners. Several have strong connections to Eugene, including Ginerva Ralph of the Shedd Institute and the members chosen to represent students, faculty and staff. For star power, there’s Ann Curry of NBC.

These people won’t be content to be figureheads. They will expect the UO to perform as the state’s leading institution of learning and research, and as a primary engine for Oregon’s civic, cultural and economic development. All of them have achieved their various types of success through careful investments of their money, time and energy. Now they’re investing a part of their lives in the UO, demonstrating a commitment to the university and a faith in its potential.

A university president can benefit greatly by being able to turn to such a board for counsel. The board will also provide a layer of political insulation, protecting the president against pressure from the Legislature, the governor’s office and the state’s education bureaucracy. The board can provide vision for the UO, reinforce the president’s vision for the university, or both. And if a president proves lacking in either vision of his own or the ability to execute the vision of others, the board can replace him. …

“Lacking in vision and the ability to execute” is a pretty good description of Mike Gottfredson. And the RG editors were prescient about his future – eleven months and an athletic scandal later Chuck Lillis bought him off with $940K. Not how you’d like to see our students’ tuition money spent, but well worth it for UO – especially after the board followed up by hiring Mike Schill, who has the potential to be a turnaround president for UO.

And I say that despite hating the closed search process and agreeing with the Oregonian’s take on the need for an investigation into how UO and Gottfredson handled the basketball rape allegations, below. UO needs to move on, but that’s not going to happen while the truth is hidden.

8/31/2015: Oregonian editors compare UO President Mike Schill with Ken Starr

Here’s how this editorial page thing works. When you’re a public figure with something interesting you want to say your PR flack (or “Duck Advocate” as UO’s Tobin Klinger prefers to think of himself, link to RG letter here) calls around to newspapers and tries to get you a meeting with the editorial board. You spend an hour or two answering tough questions on the record, and they print your answers and their opinion of them on the editorial page. It’s not as easily gamed as most press coverage, and therefore caries more weight. For example, in 2010 Richard Lariviere got the Wall Street Journal editors to write about his “New Partnership” proposal. The WSJ editorial page is serious mojo – and their editors rolled over for Lariviere’s scheme too:

Saving Public Universities, Starting With My Own:

The solution is an endowment funded by public and private contributions. Here’s how to do it.

Of course the New Partnership and Lariviere’s desire for publicity enraged Governor Kitzhaber to the point that he ordered George Pernsteiner – the Chancellor of the OUS Board – to fire Lariviere ASAP. Maybe that history explains why new UO President Mike Schill is reluctant to speak plainly to the Oregonian’s editorial board. He knows his boss Chuck Lillis, the chair of UO’s now independent board, might read it and get angry.

In any case, here’s the Oregonian’s editorial about their meeting with President Schill. Not a good sign when the editorial that’s supposed to be about you starts by comparing you unfavorably with Ken Starr:

At Baylor University, President Ken Starr has called for an independent attorney to investigate the institution’s handling of allegations that a football player sexually assaulted another student.

At the University of Oregon, however, you won’t find the same level of curiosity from new president, Michael Schill. Although Schill has taken steps to resolve the fallout from a student’s alleged gang rape by three UO basketball players in March 2014, his message is to stop rehashing what went wrong and, instead, focus on moving forward.

… For his part, Schill said he has no desire to “relitigate” the case and was clear that he was unaware of the details of how things happened. Yet in an email to the UO community earlier this month, he declared that “I do not believe any of our coaches, administrators, or other university personnel acted wrongfully, nor do I believe that any one of them failed to live up to the high moral standards that we value and that they embody in their work every day.”

Well that is a bit of a contradiction.

And then there’s Duck basketball coach Dana Altman, former Eagle Scout, now raking in the bonus cash from his “student-athletes”:

And then there’s UO men’s basketball coach Dana Altman, who has acknowledged that he did not probe deeply into Austin’s disciplinary history. That despite knowing the highly sought-after player had been suspended for the entire season due to a disciplinary issue. That strange lack of curiosity suggests that Altman really did not want to know the answer.

No shit. Or, as Upton Sinclair wrote, “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” The Oregonian finishes with this reminder:

That should be a message to Schill. The university isn’t the first to deal with student-on-student assaults. It’s not the only school that has badly mishandled an incident. But keeping ignorant is the worst possible way for an institution that understands the value of education to move forward.

I do have to reiterate, in defense of Mike Schill’s strategy, that it may well keep Chuck Lillis from firing him. And, of course, we should remember that Baylor President Ken Starr’s obsession with sex investigations is, perhaps, a bit obsessive:

31 Comments

  1. Max Powers 09/01/2015

    Lariviere was fired because he promised Kitzhaber that the University would fall in line with the others in OUS and not give anyone salary increases as they were trying to hold the line with SEIU. Lariviere apparently told the Gov and the Board that he had not given any such increases. Lariviere gave salary increases anyway, SEIU found out that the University was claiming it had no money but had given said increases, hence negotiations imploded.

    • Daffy duck 09/01/2015

      lariviere was not the first or last OUS prez to give faculty raises in that period, he was just the only one to get fired. And not just fired, but fired with prejudice toward both him and our campus. The gov, OUS, and other campuses put us in our place and relished doing it, make no mistake. Gott was fired, The case was settled, the office reorganized, I agree with a hill, let’s focus on getting things right in our time now. Still no need to insist no mistakes were made. Obviously, some mistakes were made.

      • Daffy duck 09/01/2015

        Forgot to add that SEIU also threw both RL and UO under the bus. No good deed goes unpunished.

  2. Anonymous 09/01/2015

    Sports are sacred. The coaches must be protected, not matter how abhorrent their conduct. Knight and Lillis do not care how many presidents they need to churn through to protect the program.

  3. honest Uncle Bernie 09/02/2015

    Great, Oregon’s dying lead newspaper is going after Schill. One more ruined UO president and UO will be ruined. Is there a death wish in this state?

    • Dog 09/02/2015

      really, the UO will be ruined? How will a ruined UO manifest itself?

      • uomatters Post author | 09/02/2015

        Haven’t you been listening to JH? If the football team doesn’t win the BCS this year, international student enrollment and donations to academics will plunge ruinously.

        • Dog 09/03/2015

          indeed, we will experience negative academic donations … and yes, I have not been listening to JH

  4. Captain Obvious 09/02/2015

    Don’t you mean “What if . . . “

    • In the bleachers 09/03/2015

      I believe that’s “We if.”

      • Thom Aquinas 09/13/2015

        No it is “What if…” as in, What if the Ducks were spun off as a for-profit company and had to pay for the academic services they receive from the UO?

  5. Older Man 09/13/2015

    The RG reporter writes: “Schill recognizes that this approach is heavily oriented toward the sciences, to the near-exclusion of the liberal arts…” Does he/she or Schill not know that the sciences are are integral component of the liberal arts?

    • just different 09/13/2015

      Not anymore.

  6. Hippo 09/13/2015

    UO Spokesperson says “Statistics can prove anything”. If he had said “the claims by economists of causality, often by invoking statistical techniques whose assumptions are rarely met, should be taken with a grain of salt”, I might have agreed.

  7. XDH 09/13/2015

    The sad truth is that enrollments in the liberal arts, for whatever reason, are collapsing at UO (and other institutions), like is happening to enrollments in the UO law, triple A, and music schools. While several of the science departments have seen enrollments increase by 30-40% in the last 5-7 years, similar decreases have been seen in the social sciences and humanities. I had one non Nat Sci Assoc Dean tell me that one humanities Dept would have to shrink ca. 30% to return to the faculty-student ratio that Dept had in 2007-2008. Like it or not, it makes no sense to dump significant resources into shrinking departments and colleges, for example, the well-documented (on UOM) transfer of monies into the Law School if the students just aren’t there. Sorry, as tough and disconcerting as it is, the facts are facts, and needs are needs.

    • awesome0 09/13/2015

      But the students continue to flock to some social science departments. For instance, pysch and econ are some of the largest majors on campus.

      • Oldest Man 09/14/2015

        Perhaps Law and Music could increase their enrollments by changing their titles to “Legal Science” and “Musical Science,” respectively.

    • Daffy Duck 09/14/2015

      Three quick points related to XDH and dog. Yes, the Harvard Humanities Project reports a 50% national decline since the mid 1960s in the number of degrees awarded in the humanities, but humanities at the UO bucked that trend, something of a feather in our cap among AAU universities at the national level. Also, recent declines in some of the social science departments appear directly related to the new integrative general social science major. Lastly, music has a history of bringing in stronger first-year majors than any other college except one, CAS, something they do not get enough credit for.

    • XDH 09/15/2015

      awsome0 and Daffy Duck raise some good points but that still does not change the fact that UO Social Science and Humanities division enrollments in general (regardless of department) as well as professional school enrollments are currently on the decline. Hopefully that will reverse someday.

      FYI – Psych is in the Natural Sciences division, not Social Science.

      • daffy duck 09/15/2015

        overcame my laziness and checked the data at http://ir.uoregon.edu/school_college_profile

        If these data are as presented:
        yes, cas humanities are down a bit from the 2007 peak, but roughly the same as 2004.
        no, cas social sciences are actually up overall. both divisions have much heterogeneity across programs, so much of the stress is within each area. The recovery of science enrollments is certainly a good sign. Our recruitment of international students no doubt plays a role in some of these patterns, given the field preferences of the parents that send them.

        • XDH 09/16/2015

          Thanks Daffy – I should have done the same thing and overcome my laziness. Where we differ a bit is that you talk pure numbers while I talk percentages with the data for 2004 to 2014:

          Total undergrads: 16358 to 20569 – 25.7% increase
          CAS Hum: 1655 to 1654 – no increase
          CAS SocSci: 2827 to 3885 – 37.4% increase
          CAS NatSci: 3061 to 5050 – 65.0% increase

          As a percentage of total UG per division vs. total UG enrollment then the changes are 2.1% decrease, 1.6% increase and 5.8% increase, respectively. So I was wrong about SocSci – I admit it.

          As UoM knows all too well, one can spin data however one wants…

          • Dog 09/16/2015

            analysis – I think the best way to do this is actually in terms of majors – the SCH data can be highly distorted and not very representative. In general, G3 classes are bigger than G1 classes, for instance,.

          • Dog 09/16/2015

            Here is a small majors exercise (ir.uoregon.edu/degrees)

            Major 1994 2004 2014

            English 257 123 104
            Philosophy 11 46 60
            Theartre Arts 21 30 26

            History 86 123 93
            PoliSci 219 194 199
            Econ 94 152 248
            Sociology 208 217 227

            Biology 98 98 120
            CIS 43 82 57
            Pysch 346 295 416
            HumPhys … 61 239

            Obviously the above is selective so you can interpret anyway you like. If I have time, I can do a more decent aggregation. The basic point from the above is that fluctuations (up or down) seem to
            be large

          • Dog 09/16/2015

            Okay you can aggregate on that site in one of the tabs (Tableua, the software IR uses, is great for data science by the way)

            Again

            1994 2004 2014

            CasHum 522 457 581
            CasSocSci 782 1030 1518
            NatSci 639 716 1006

            • uomatters Post author | 09/16/2015

              How about percentages, Dog? And how do these numbers compare with national trends? With CAS budgets?

          • Dog 09/16/2015

            its not in my job description to do any of this
            but if I have some time ….

            • uomatters Post author | 09/16/2015

              Thanks. The CAS budget info, by Dept, is in Nathan’s transparency tool under Duckweb.

          • daffy duck 09/16/2015

            Thanks xdh for the extra effort to get actual numbers. I stopped at the pictures. The numbers are useful in suggesting that the increased enrollments went disproportionally to the sciences and social sciences, esp. the sciences. Normally (something uncommon at the UO) these enrollment pressures would be funded from a portion of the incremental revenues, but apparently, a large chunk of the incremental resources were redirected to areas outside CAS?

  8. Dog 09/14/2015

    As I have posted in the past, in the real world, disciplines now need to merge to produce more relevant college graduates and discipline based departments need to slowly fade away. This is unlikely to happen at most Universities, but those that do make it happen (and nationally this is lead by engineering programs) will enjoy a better future.

    I will give my usual example here.

    The UO should offer a new Degree in Pacific Rim Management

    Required elements:

    1. language proficiency in Chinese, Japanese or Korean

    2. Culture proficiency in asian history and political structures

    3. Advanced courses in international economics and global supply chain methods.

    4. Advanced courses in International Law

    There are lots of other examples:

    climate change science, policy and law

    data science

    science/policy interface

    in short, the separate scopes of humanities, social sciences, and natural sciences, can and should be combined in new and innovative ways, stop the siloing – produce better graduates …

    But, like I said above, this is very UNLIKELY to happen.

    • Daffy duck 09/15/2015

      One of the largest foreign manufacturers supplying Nike is a UO grad who majored in Chinese and polis I, with a minor in business. he operates plants in China, Vietnam, and Mexico. our students have been putting together integrative sties for their degrees for some time, not to mention the formal multidisciplinary formal degrees in environmental studies, environmental science, Women’s an gender studies, ethnic studies, comp lit. Cinema studies, general science, general social science, international studies and several others. Is a fixed, formal degree in pac rim studies a good idea? If enough faculty and some related departments think so, the path is open.

  9. Increased Enrollment 09/15/2015

    “A high-profile athletics program helps attract students who otherwise would never have heard of the UO, he added.”

    That’s probably true, but not nearly to the degree of significance that Schill (parroting Lillis) would like to claim. Roughly half of the growth in the student body at UO has come from China, and as you may already know, most of these new students have never watched a game of American football prior to applying. Throughout the admission process, prospective UO students rarely mention sports as one of their primary reasons for applying to UO or choosing to attend. During UO’s period of athletic success, UO’s marketshare of Oregonians has remained flat at best. There is some evidence that there is a correlation of football success with an increase in applications of students from California, which roughly make up the other half of increases to the student body.

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