I find this statement bewildering as it conflates the issue of consent and jurisdiction: “No action or inaction by a crime survivor makes that person responsible for his or her victimization. Perpetrators are responsible for crimes and their effects.”
Because this was issued by the UOPD, this statement implies that legal judgments will not be made regarding any action or inaction post-incident, when that is not the case. Survivor’s actions or inactions post-incident will be evaluated to determine character traits/behaviors and level of consent. The DA made this clear in his statement regarding the March 8th incident involving 3 UO basketball players, saying that the State couldn’t meet burden of proof of lack of consent on several grounds, two of which are because “…B) Friends and associates of the alleged victim describe her as friendly and flirtations, both before and after the first and second alleged assaults in the party-house bathroom….” And “H) Alleged victim had consensual sex with one of the suspects the morning after the alleged assaults and, later the same day, she had sex with another friend.”
The statement from the DA that I find most troubling in making his determination is that “…later the same day, she had sex with another friend.”
Although not widely known, it is not uncommon for rape survivors to engage in consensual sex the next day with someone else in order to regain a sense of control over their bodies. In this case, however, the survivor’s action post-incident was used as a judgment about the survivor’s character and whether or not the case was prosecutable on grounds of consent. This then implies that this particular action may very well have been used to invalidate her victimization the previous night in the eyes of the DA and therefore lies in stark contrast to this statement: “No action or inaction by a crime survivor makes that person responsible for his or her victimization.”
What the hell is going on our campus? Has this out of control behaviour always been there and we just hear of these crimes now?
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I know my students well, and know they pretty much go to school, go to work and try to make ends meet. They don’t have time to ”party” (drug someone and assault) WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE??
Senior faculty member that works on Title IX
05/18/2014
Yes, this has been going on all the time. Repeated requests to Robin Holmes to look into it have been met with rejection, annoyance, hostility, and personal attacks. The last time a complaint like this was brought to me, Robin et. al. had ignored it for eight moths. She is an incompetent liar, and progress will begin when she finds employment elsewhere.
Anonymous
05/18/2014
There goes Gottfredson’s claim he’d done everything he could to protect our students after the basketball assault. One standard for athletes, another for regular students!
Gott the guts to resign?
05/18/2014
This maddened me this morning. Where the hell was this after the gang rape?
And one
05/18/2014
Perhaps this is UOPD’s chance to make it’s own statement. Betting we see many more of these, much quicker from here on in. Chief McDermed is going to do it all by the book is my guess, further showing how absurd Gottfredson’s process was.
uomattersPost author | 05/18/2014
Yes, this is a big improvement, it was pushed by the UO-CESV, and it’s great to see the UOPD do it. Congratulations to them both, and lets hope it’s the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
As for our Johnson Hall leadership, they are far too busy with their usual – trying to cover their own asses.
Anonymous
05/18/2014
Interesting to browse through the other crime alerts on the police site. Two observations:
1. The log includes several assaults, robberies, etc. that happened off campus. Hard to reconcile that with admin claims that the Clery Act did not apply to the recent incident because it happened 1 block off campus.
2. The alert above says that the university learned that a woman was “allegedly” sexually assaulted. Not all crimes get an allegedly – some of the crime alerts say the crime was reported to the police, and some flat out say the crime happened.
I find this statement bewildering as it conflates the issue of consent and jurisdiction: “No action or inaction by a crime survivor makes that person responsible for his or her victimization. Perpetrators are responsible for crimes and their effects.”
Because this was issued by the UOPD, this statement implies that legal judgments will not be made regarding any action or inaction post-incident, when that is not the case. Survivor’s actions or inactions post-incident will be evaluated to determine character traits/behaviors and level of consent. The DA made this clear in his statement regarding the March 8th incident involving 3 UO basketball players, saying that the State couldn’t meet burden of proof of lack of consent on several grounds, two of which are because “…B) Friends and associates of the alleged victim describe her as friendly and flirtations, both before and after the first and second alleged assaults in the party-house bathroom….” And “H) Alleged victim had consensual sex with one of the suspects the morning after the alleged assaults and, later the same day, she had sex with another friend.”
The statement from the DA that I find most troubling in making his determination is that “…later the same day, she had sex with another friend.”
Although not widely known, it is not uncommon for rape survivors to engage in consensual sex the next day with someone else in order to regain a sense of control over their bodies. In this case, however, the survivor’s action post-incident was used as a judgment about the survivor’s character and whether or not the case was prosecutable on grounds of consent. This then implies that this particular action may very well have been used to invalidate her victimization the previous night in the eyes of the DA and therefore lies in stark contrast to this statement: “No action or inaction by a crime survivor makes that person responsible for his or her victimization.”
Full transcript from the DA here: http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2014/05/lane_county_district_attorney.html
What the hell is going on our campus? Has this out of control behaviour always been there and we just hear of these crimes now?
–
I know my students well, and know they pretty much go to school, go to work and try to make ends meet. They don’t have time to ”party” (drug someone and assault) WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE??
Yes, this has been going on all the time. Repeated requests to Robin Holmes to look into it have been met with rejection, annoyance, hostility, and personal attacks. The last time a complaint like this was brought to me, Robin et. al. had ignored it for eight moths. She is an incompetent liar, and progress will begin when she finds employment elsewhere.
There goes Gottfredson’s claim he’d done everything he could to protect our students after the basketball assault. One standard for athletes, another for regular students!
This maddened me this morning. Where the hell was this after the gang rape?
Perhaps this is UOPD’s chance to make it’s own statement. Betting we see many more of these, much quicker from here on in. Chief McDermed is going to do it all by the book is my guess, further showing how absurd Gottfredson’s process was.
Yes, this is a big improvement, it was pushed by the UO-CESV, and it’s great to see the UOPD do it. Congratulations to them both, and lets hope it’s the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
As for our Johnson Hall leadership, they are far too busy with their usual – trying to cover their own asses.
Interesting to browse through the other crime alerts on the police site. Two observations:
1. The log includes several assaults, robberies, etc. that happened off campus. Hard to reconcile that with admin claims that the Clery Act did not apply to the recent incident because it happened 1 block off campus.
2. The alert above says that the university learned that a woman was “allegedly” sexually assaulted. Not all crimes get an allegedly – some of the crime alerts say the crime was reported to the police, and some flat out say the crime happened.