2/13/2012: Memo from Lariviere to Dyke, Tripp. CC to Moffitt and Executive Leadership Team, here. 11/1/2011. No public notice on what is clearly a contentious issue. This is not trust-based community policing.
2/13/2012: Memo from Lariviere to Dyke, Tripp. CC to Moffitt and Executive Leadership Team, here. 11/1/2011. No public notice on what is clearly a contentious issue. This is not trust-based community policing.
I am confused! Are you actually surprised that new police officers need guns for the police academy? It is no doubt a required part of the curriculum
No re-read the statement. We are tired of being lied to by our upper admins about guns on campus. What part of the university community deciding whether or not we want guns on campus at a later date do you not understand?
Perhaps our hefty donut eaters ought to dislodge their well rounded posteriors from their huge SUVs (with winches!) and attempt walk few steps so they can make the physical grade in their in their new roles as tail gate protectors!
Dog says
The words “university community” don’t actually mean anything here. We have
TTF/NTTF polarization; we have polarization between sciences in the CAS and
rest of CAS and certain the admin acts on its own whims. I’ve been at the UO
a long time (too long actually) and I noticed this community problem in my
first 6 months here. It did not get structurally worse until 1997 when JTM
decentralized everything and told each unit to become entrepreneurial (which doesn’t work at a state university). Since then we all live in a world of competition for meager resources, we do not act collaboratively (look at the behavior of IS for the last 6 years and more) and we have no trust in the administration. These things are playing out now in the Union debate but the seeds were well sown previously. While Old Man and others think the Senate is the repair vehicle for this I doubt it. I think the feeling of being treated poorly (by both the UO and the State), no matter who you are, has been brewing for the last couple of decades and we just tend to stew in it. On the other hand, I am just a dog, of course, a poorly treated dog …
But seriously, we might be able to rebuild community if we actually had an academic mission and incentives to collaborate to form new alliances and new academic programs – seems to me someone expressed that sentiment in a Big Idea once upon a time, actually more than one proposal was like this – but we remain driven by the lowest common denominator, the almighty department based student credit hour, where we discourage collaborative learning (not in specific cases, but in general) and still treat most students as learners in isolation using a legacy curriculum.
So I guess this has nothing to do with guns on campus so I digressed – still guns
on campus do make it easier to just shoot the dog.
Amen! Dog gets to the heart of so many matters expressed on this site.
For Dog:
The destructive Moseley budget model is not carved in stone. Old Man invites Dog to join him in a move to Occupy the Budget Model.
Dog agrees
the budget model is not carved in stone – but the legacy of that model
and all polarized attitudes that flow from that, in this dog’s view,
are most definitely chiseled in stone.
Dear Dog, Well, where do we start to undo that unfortunate legacy? Old Man thinks the Senate would be happy to act on a proposal for a proper budget model. Bring it on! It will be one helluva test for our Constitution.
I hope next time anon above will make their point without getting quite so nasty.
Guns have been on campus at the ROTC for decades!