It has my vote. But I’d really like to see this for *all* residents. Yeah, it’d be a minor windfall for the state’s rich kids, which is a minus. But in return, it would very visibly demonstrate that we regard education as a fundamental gift that we as a society want to give to each and every kid, and that we’re putting the money down to make sure that no one is missed.
Oldtimer
01/25/2019
To deplorable duck, yours may be a good argument for logrolling the legislation, but if the objective is to give every individual an equal probability of enrolling and completing college, then evidence from good studies shows that awards need to be needs based to do that.
Deplorable Duck
01/25/2019
The point of giving it to everyone would be to inculcate the idea that education is something that everyone should have access to, in the same way that we all have access to emergency rooms.
If you imagine that the funds for making this universal are pulled from the pot of needs-based grants, then yes, this looks bad.
I’m more imagining it being funded by a slight increase in the income tax rate, so needs-based funding need not be affected.
Regarding the “every individual equal probability of enrolling and completing college”, that’s not a goal I’d shoot for. Individuals are unique. Some are more suited for college than others. And completing is mostly on the individual. I’d just leave it at I’d like for absolutely everyone who wants to go to college to be able to start, and for those who are doing passably well to be able to graduate, and ideally all of that with none ending up with a crippling debt hangover.
(We should also be pointing out the advantages of *not* getting a Bachelor’s degree in today’s environment. LCC teaches welding, and a lot of people might be better off following that fast and debt-free route.)
Oldtimer
01/26/2019
Having grown up in a family with welders and having been able at one time to lay down a bubble free weld, Your point about welding for some is good.
uomattersPost author | 01/26/2019
MIG, TIG, Arc, oxy-acetylene?
Oldtimer
01/26/2019
Plain old stick arc welding.
charlie
01/26/2019
Accidentally junked you. Was told if you could weld aluminium, you were gold. Hadn’t thought of what that journeyman told me decades ago until reading your post. More cogent than ever….
It has my vote. But I’d really like to see this for *all* residents. Yeah, it’d be a minor windfall for the state’s rich kids, which is a minus. But in return, it would very visibly demonstrate that we regard education as a fundamental gift that we as a society want to give to each and every kid, and that we’re putting the money down to make sure that no one is missed.
To deplorable duck, yours may be a good argument for logrolling the legislation, but if the objective is to give every individual an equal probability of enrolling and completing college, then evidence from good studies shows that awards need to be needs based to do that.
The point of giving it to everyone would be to inculcate the idea that education is something that everyone should have access to, in the same way that we all have access to emergency rooms.
If you imagine that the funds for making this universal are pulled from the pot of needs-based grants, then yes, this looks bad.
I’m more imagining it being funded by a slight increase in the income tax rate, so needs-based funding need not be affected.
Regarding the “every individual equal probability of enrolling and completing college”, that’s not a goal I’d shoot for. Individuals are unique. Some are more suited for college than others. And completing is mostly on the individual. I’d just leave it at I’d like for absolutely everyone who wants to go to college to be able to start, and for those who are doing passably well to be able to graduate, and ideally all of that with none ending up with a crippling debt hangover.
(We should also be pointing out the advantages of *not* getting a Bachelor’s degree in today’s environment. LCC teaches welding, and a lot of people might be better off following that fast and debt-free route.)
Having grown up in a family with welders and having been able at one time to lay down a bubble free weld, Your point about welding for some is good.
MIG, TIG, Arc, oxy-acetylene?
Plain old stick arc welding.
Accidentally junked you. Was told if you could weld aluminium, you were gold. Hadn’t thought of what that journeyman told me decades ago until reading your post. More cogent than ever….