Disclaimer: My interpretation of what was said or meant or should have been said, nothing is a quote unless in quotes.
Short version:
Pres Gottfredson gives short content-free speech, gets called out for speaking as “The University” on academic matters, i.e. the boycott of Israeli universities.
VP Roger Thompson starts off with fluff, gets tough questions, gives thorough, thoughtful, knowledgeable answers. Impressive. So why was he so evasive about revenue athlete SAT’s in his “Around the O” interview?
Librarian Deb Carver: Blackboard will be replaced! Wait, maybe not, we’re reviewing it and may replace it, maybe not. Current license goes through Sept 2015. If we change, year of overlap to switch to new alternative.
Huaxin Lin: When are we going to elect a Senate President elect for next year? Should have been done in May.
Really long version: Senate Meeting Agenda – January 15, 2013
115 Lawrence, 3:00-5:00 p.m.
3:00 pm 1. Call to Order
3:05 pm 2. Approval of Minutes The Senate minutes are very thorough, here.
3:10 pm 3. State of the University, 3.1 Remarks by President Gottfredson
Working on academic plan, divorce from OUS and new relationship with HECC and UO Board. Board meeting coming soon. He’s impressed with Trustees. UO will be taking over some OUS functions – e.g. selling bonds. Some shared services will remain, e.g. risk management, using an innovative opt-in model where universities are customers and can leave if they get a raw deal.
More provost candidates coming. Close to decision for UO Ombudsperson, announcement soon. Also searching for Deans of Education and Libraries, going well.
Boycott of Israel: Gottfredson is opposed to boycott, based on faith in Academic Freedom.
Questions?
Sullivan: Congrats on UO board, when does the Senate get to meet them? MG: Soon.
Kyr: Summary on boycott? MG: Gives summary. All the other AAU presidents were doing this, I thought I should too.
Bonine: As you know, professors shouldn’t speak for the university. But your statement says “We”. Would you consider changing this to “I”? MG: I’ll take that under advisement with my administrative advisors, but I think I get to speak on behalf of the University.
Bonine: Suppose, hypothetically, that the Senate took an opposite view. Can we also speak on behalf of the university? Shouldn’t this have been discussed by Senate?
MG: I appreciate your thoughts.
3:30 pm 4. New Business
4.1 Motion (Legislation): Redlined Policies (Revised Policies) for Senate Review; Robert Kyr, Professor (Music) & UO Senator
Kyr: Admins have been proposing changes to UO policies and we can’t figure out what changes they are making. Format them to make it obvious. This is a great motion, Randy Geller’s redlines are often pretty damn hilarious.
Bonine: Can we “tell” the administration to do this, or just plead? Should be the administration’s job, not the Senate Coordinator’s job to keep track.
4.2 Motion (Legislation): Housekeeping Changes to Senate Bylaws; Lisa Raleigh, Director of Communications (CAS) & UO Senator
Raleigh: Fixes a few numbering mistakes. Lin: Takes the opportunity to ask for clarification on the definition of a 2/3 majority.
4:00 pm 5. Open Discussion
Sullivan: In light of Bonine’s comments on who speaks for the university on academic matters, I propose the Senate draft a resolution speaking for the academic side.
Paris: MG did talk with me and the FAC, I told him this was OK since it was reaffirming the status quo.
Bonine: No. All kinds of things could be swept under the status quo rug. Reads resolution, points out how this resolution actually can be read as restricting academic freedom.
Emami: Several years ago I brought up a resolution against the war in Iraq. I was told it was not a suitable subject for the Senate.
Dreiling: This boycott is clearly an academic matter, has to do with academic freedom, we should move forward with a Senate resolution a la Sullivan.
Sullivan: Defer further discussion til there’s a resolution, if someone wants to write one?
Bonine: Agree, we should use AAUP statement on academic boycotts, which cites Nelson Mandela on appropriate responses, and which takes a statement on boycotts in general rather than a “which side are we on” reaction to this particular issue.
Dreiling: Reads part of AAUP statement against boycotts, as anti-academic freedom.
Paris: Actually, our by-laws state that we can make resolutions about anything.
4:15 pm 6. Reports
6.1 Report on Tenth-Year Committee Review; Robert Kyr, Professor (Music) & UO Senator
Kyr: Committee on committees met, is setting up working groups, will prepare several slates of legislation for working groups, etc. Many meetings to come, reforms will be focused on important reforms of IAC, STC, SBC, etc. Goal is to finish by spring.
6.2 Report on Athletics Subsidies Committee: William Harbaugh, Professor (Economics) & UO Senator
REPORT on Senate motion “An End to Subsidies for the UO Athletic Department”
From: Bill Harbaugh (Economics), to the UO Senate, 1/15/2014
Last spring the UO Senate voted in favor of a resolution asking UO President Gottfredson to end subsidies for the UO Athletic Department, and to begin having the AD make modest payments to the academic side for need-based scholarships and other academic purposes.
In the absence of any concrete action from the administration in response to this resolution, at the November Senate meeting I followed up with a similar motion, but as legislation. At the December meeting the Senate voted to table a vote on the legislation until the February meeting, and to establish an ad hoc committee to meet with President Gottfredson to discuss this legislation.
That committee is chaired by myself and includes Jenny Ellis (Business), Ali Emani (Business), Rob Kyr (Music), Sam Dotters-Katz (ASUO President), Jane Cramer (Political Science), Terrie Minner-Engle (Academic Advising), and Helena Schlegel (Student). President Gottfredson stated at the meeting that he approved of this plan.
Prior to the discussion of the motion, President Gottfredson had noted that he believed that the Senate Budget Committee was the appropriate place for discussions about Athletic Department finances and these subsidies, and that they would soon meet to discuss these matters. After the Senate meeting and the vote establishing the ad hoc committee, I emailed the members of the SBC asking who was the chair, and if I could attend this meeting. I was told by the members that the SBC had not picked a chair. I was then told by VP Brad Shelton (an ex-officio member of the SBC), that his decision was that I could not attend the meeting of the Senate Budget Committee about athletic finances.
My feeling is that the decision by VP Shelton to prevent the chair of a committee appointed by the Senate to work on athletic finances from attending a meeting of the Senate Budget Committee meeting dealing with athletic finances is a bizarre one – particularly given President Gottfredson’s support for the establishment of this ad hoc committee. I think that this, in combination with the fact that the SBC includes no Senators (except the ex-offico Senate President) and has not reported to the Senate since 2010 shows a systemic problem with the SBC as currently constituted. So I have introduced a motion to have the Senate elect SBC members, which should come up for a Senate vote in February.
The ad hoc committee does now have a meeting scheduled with President Gottfredson, Interim Provost Scott Coltrane, and VPAA Jamie Moffitt for January 28th, and despite all of the above I remain optimistic that the Senate will make progress on the issue of athletic subsidies, and perhaps also on reforming our general lack of influence over financial matters.
6.3 Report on Academic Freedom/Freedom of Speech Committee; Michael Dreiling, Professor (Sociology) & UO Senator
Dreiling:: Sent draft to Senate, 4 responses, will distill and present to the Senate work group and discuss with President Gottfredson at the next meeting with him. Any changes will be distributed and posted.
6.4 Report on Legal Services Policy; Margie Paris, Professor (Law) & UO Senate President
Paris: Paris, Lininger and Sayre and I have met, reviewed Randy’s redlines, will post these soon. I know that this has now been 6 months. We lost Susan Gary from the committee, Lininger is the replacement and has got up to speed very quickly, hope to have substantive report soon.
Bonine: Where is Randy’s redlined version? Paris: I’ll have that in a day or two with our response.
Sullivan: How’s it been meeting with Geller?
Paris: We haven’t even sat in a room together with Geller yet. (Wow!). Not sure we’ll be able to compromise.
6.5 Report on Admissions; Roger Thompson, Vice President for Enrollment Management
Me: I’m wondering if Thompson will deal with the latest info on UO’s special admits of football and basketball players with verbal SAT’s of < 400. Not sure but this looks like the last 5 years or so:
Sara Ganim of CNN has now posted the data showing the SAT/ACT scores for UO’s revenue sport athletes. Her original story is here: http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/07/us/ncaa-athletes-reading-scores/index.html
The raw UO data is here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1005755-university-of-oregon-data.html
Her explanatory notes are pasted below. As you can see, a rather large percentage of UO football and basketball players have scores that, according to the experts Ms Ganim cites, are below the thresholds for “being college literate”.
The “Around the O” article by Joe Mosely, with quotes from VP for Enrollment Roger Thompson, which Ganim discusses, is here: http://around.uoregon.edu/story/academics/gpa-and-test-scores-show-uo-student-athletes-academically-prepared
As you can see, there is a vast difference in college preparation between the student athletes in sports that bring in no revenue, and those who are brought to UO to earn money for the athletic department.
VP for Enrollment Roger Thompson: We buy lists of prospective students – 100K this year. Lots of undergraduate growth, not grads. GPA up from 3.4 to 3.6. More AP courses. (No adjustment for inflation?) Yup, SAT scores haven’t budged since 2000.
Thompson: We ignore writing scores since there’s no evidence they are consistently scored. Slices and dices students on race and ethnicity. 10% international students.
Moving on to SES diversity, 37% of resident students that are Pell grant eligible, 14% of non-resident. Good discussion of how it may not make sense for low SES out-of-state to come to UO, given that so many drop out over the high out-of-state tuition.
Sullivan: Any more undergrads coming? Thompson: No. At the moment the goal is 24,500 total enrollment, no more growth.
Q from floor: Why did you focus your presentation on rising, probably inflated grades, not on the flat SAT’s?
Thompson: OUS policy prevents us from looking at SAT’s (!) I hope to change that with new independent board. (Good idea, IMHO.)
Bonine: I just googled it, and the number of Pell eligible students is increasing due to the recession, your trend is not unique to UO.
Thompson gives a good response, starts to realize his presentation was a little too dumbed down for the Senate. Lots of other good questions and he’s got good answers when he’s pushed. ODE reporter is here, I’m hoping they’ll give a good report. Talks about lack of state financing – PathWays is all funded with UO money, Oregon Opportunity state money is trivial. Oregon exports too many HS, college grads, hopes with new board we can figure out a way to educate more Oregon students, particularly rich science kids from west Portland, instead of being so dependent on Californians.
6.6 Report on Evaluating Course Management Systems; Deborah Carver, Dean of the UO Libraries
Carver: We may replace Blackboard. Psaki: Is it true we’re using the low-rent version of Blackboard? Carver: Yes, and even worse their proposal for us keeping it is still the bad version. (WTF?)
4:50 pm 7. Announcements and Communication from the Floor
Lin: When are we going to get a vice-president/president elect? (Should have happened last May.) Paris: We’re working on it. Any volunteers?
4:55 pm 8. Other Business
Psaki: We no longer have time to get across campus, set up laptops. Can we increase time between courses from 10 min to 15? Eveland: Probably not.
5:00 pm 9. Adjournment at 4:50!
1/14/2014 Update: This Senate meeting may be more important than I’d thought. Rumor has it that President Gottfredson will give a substantive presentation on UO’s financial situation, complete with spreadsheets and forecasts, and also ask the faculty for input on his “Clusters of Excellence” plans.
1/13/14: This Senate meeting will be more notable for what is not on the agenda than for what is. The draft minutes from the December meeting are here, and the agenda is here. What’s still hanging fire?
